DivotMaker
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You can also use a pan of sand, if you have any. Just something to absorb/hold heat, like meat would.
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nvw-ssv
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AUBER WSD 1200 GPH purchased 12/2015 /#2
Using a back yard stone paver, probably 2.5 lbs...placed on middle rack - no water bowl - permanent probe about 1/2 inch below top rack (~4.25"below top) and checking against both Mav733 probes...
Bypassed #2
P = 72
I= 109
D= 277
Before bypass occurred (#2 all other things same)
P= 103
I= 115
D= 278
After bypassed tuning, I noticed that when setting up a program C1 = 322*F -1.5 hours, it climbed to 327*/328* and maintained there for at least 25 minutes, before I manually lowered the C1 time to make it drop towards C2 = 235*F. Is this normal to miss the target temp this much and stay there for that long?
*Also noticed that the MAV 733 probes read approx 14 and 20 degrees higher than AUBER , consistently, when temps are rising...and take around 1/2 hour to align with the Auber readout when falling/leveling from 322*F to target of 235*F.
Also noticed that when setting up a program C1 = 322*F -1.5 hours, it climbed to 327*/328* and maintained there for at least 25 minutes, before I manually lowered the C1 time to make it drop towards 235*F.
Are these PID numbers in the ballpark/OK? Wanting very much to tune this in tightly before my first "bypassed Auber" cook.
Using a back yard stone paver, probably 2.5 lbs...placed on middle rack - no water bowl - permanent probe about 1/2 inch below top rack (~4.25"below top) and checking against both Mav733 probes...
Bypassed #2
P = 72
I= 109
D= 277
Before bypass occurred (#2 all other things same)
P= 103
I= 115
D= 278
After bypassed tuning, I noticed that when setting up a program C1 = 322*F -1.5 hours, it climbed to 327*/328* and maintained there for at least 25 minutes, before I manually lowered the C1 time to make it drop towards C2 = 235*F. Is this normal to miss the target temp this much and stay there for that long?
*Also noticed that the MAV 733 probes read approx 14 and 20 degrees higher than AUBER , consistently, when temps are rising...and take around 1/2 hour to align with the Auber readout when falling/leveling from 322*F to target of 235*F.
Also noticed that when setting up a program C1 = 322*F -1.5 hours, it climbed to 327*/328* and maintained there for at least 25 minutes, before I manually lowered the C1 time to make it drop towards 235*F.
Are these PID numbers in the ballpark/OK? Wanting very much to tune this in tightly before my first "bypassed Auber" cook.
DivotMaker
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Hi NVW (by the way, a first name in your signature line is nice...much more personal),
Your numbers look way off, to me, for a #2. Mine were:
P 62
I 902
D 112
I wouldn't worry much about the Maverick difference; that's probably due to probe placement. This is one of the reasons the permanent probe is great. If you use the drop in probe, where you put it will change it dramatically. The only way to get your Mav to read the same as the wall probe would be to attach it right beside it.
I'd try plugging the above settings in and try it. These work great in my #2. Not sure why your autotune numbers are so low for the "I" setting.
Your numbers look way off, to me, for a #2. Mine were:
P 62
I 902
D 112
I wouldn't worry much about the Maverick difference; that's probably due to probe placement. This is one of the reasons the permanent probe is great. If you use the drop in probe, where you put it will change it dramatically. The only way to get your Mav to read the same as the wall probe would be to attach it right beside it.
I'd try plugging the above settings in and try it. These work great in my #2. Not sure why your autotune numbers are so low for the "I" setting.
DivotMaker
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Those numbers look much better! Let's see how it goes!
MicKM
New member
Hello folks
I tried the auto tune last night with the permanent probe.
I placed two brinks at the top (cant believe how hard it is to find spare bricks in Singapore). Foiled in correct places, added the water.
My results came in as;
P57
I063
D515
I am thinking my I figure is definitely wrong.
Any suggestions and a great big thanks for this wonderful forum of advice and suggestions.
Best regards
Andrew
I tried the auto tune last night with the permanent probe.
I placed two brinks at the top (cant believe how hard it is to find spare bricks in Singapore). Foiled in correct places, added the water.
My results came in as;
P57
I063
D515
I am thinking my I figure is definitely wrong.
Any suggestions and a great big thanks for this wonderful forum of advice and suggestions.
Best regards
Andrew
MicKM
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Hi Dave, I have a #2.
Probe is approx 3 inches from roof centred.
I have a WSD-1200GPH Auber.
The plain sand is harder to find than the bricks. In Singapore, you pay for everything. I might have to sneak to the beach and get a bucket!
I did soak the bricks in water.
I think I failed to program the PID first, I simply went to part 3. of the instructions (typical), I will re-soak, re-insert and do program first, then do the auto-tune.
I hope I get it right this time.
Best regards
Mick
Probe is approx 3 inches from roof centred.
I have a WSD-1200GPH Auber.
The plain sand is harder to find than the bricks. In Singapore, you pay for everything. I might have to sneak to the beach and get a bucket!
I did soak the bricks in water.
I think I failed to program the PID first, I simply went to part 3. of the instructions (typical), I will re-soak, re-insert and do program first, then do the auto-tune.
I hope I get it right this time.
Best regards
Mick
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MicKM
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Hi Dave,
Sorry, it may seem Im stalking you, but it's the time difference.
OK, second auto tune completed.
Results
P57
I461
D365
As a side note, the auber kept showing 225 as temp once completed (no longer flashing), the Maverick said 235?
I cant say they were in the exact same position as I didnt open to check and inserted Maverick after start.
How do those numbers seem?
Best regards
Mick
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Sorry, it may seem Im stalking you, but it's the time difference.
OK, second auto tune completed.
Results
P57
I461
D365
As a side note, the auber kept showing 225 as temp once completed (no longer flashing), the Maverick said 235?
I cant say they were in the exact same position as I didnt open to check and inserted Maverick after start.
How do those numbers seem?
Best regards
Mick
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MicKM
New member
Hi Dave, no definitely in Port #1
Do the numbers seem off?
P57
I461
D365
Best regards
Mick
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It sounds like you are plugging the probe into the wrong port. The left window is the box temp (Probe 1) on the back of the Auber. The right window or Probe 2 port is the meat temp probe.
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Do the numbers seem off?
P57
I461
D365
Best regards
Mick
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It sounds like you are plugging the probe into the wrong port. The left window is the box temp (Probe 1) on the back of the Auber. The right window or Probe 2 port is the meat temp probe.
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SuperDave
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They seem somewhat off to me. But do a test smoke with something inexpensive like a chicken and see how it runs. I'm still very confused by your statement that the left window was an -H-. That is the smoker box temp window and should be showing your smoker temperature. Were you doing your auto tune with just one probe in or two?
