How many #3 owners have an Auber?

Hey Libo, did anyone ever give you an answer on the pid settings? If not I will see if I can find the ones on mine. So you do not have a Auber unit? Also sounds like the CS at Auber kind of S__ks. Seems like they really did not want to help you with your problem...
 
Post yours for sure.  I think I wrote what Auber told me regarding PID settings somewhere on the forum. Basically, they said not to rely on autotune.  They recommended manually tuning it and gave me some guidelines on how to do it. 
 
Bill, as long as you use your Auber at a temp below 250, you can get your #1 all dialed in with the auto tune and even smoke with it.  The instructions just tell you to turn the stock controller all the way up to 250 so that it doesn't interfere with the Auber. 
 
Thanks for the info Dave, Yes, I could do this except I have the permanent mount sensor for the #1 not sure if could lay on a cooking rack. And I was going to do that Sat. but something came up. Also Libo, I will try and get my pid readings for you after the ribs are finished. I did just a simple program but looks like the Auber is holding the temp. at 235 +/- 1 degree. Mostly have just seen internal box temp. at 235.
 
Hey Libo, sorry for the lateness, here are my settings on the Auber WS-1503CPH that I use with the #3. P=70, I=600, D=150. It worked flawless on the ribs, never seen it over 235 until it hit the last step and went to 245 for 30 min. Was going to add sauce and let set in the smoker for 30 min. but changed my mind. Ribs were done at 4.5 hrs.
 
elkins20 said:
Thanks for the info Dave, Yes, I could do this except I have the permanent mount sensor for the #1 not sure if could lay on a cooking rack. And I was going to do that Sat. but something came up. Also Libo, I will try and get my pid readings for you after the ribs are finished. I did just a simple program but looks like the Auber is holding the temp. at 235 +/- 1 degree. Mostly have just seen internal box temp. at 235.
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Bill, you can download the 1503CPH model direct from auberins.com.  I know Rick already tuned yours, but you'll probably need to re-do an autotune after installing the permanent probe.  Despite the info Libo was given, the autotune works, and you'll get good results.  Mine have always been dead-on, and I've never felt I was "lucky!" 
 
elkins20 said:
Hey Libo, sorry for the lateness, here are my settings on the Auber WS-1503CPH that I use with the #3. P=70, I=600, D=150. It worked flawless on the ribs, never seen it over 235 until it hit the last step and went to 245 for 30 min. Was going to add sauce and let set in the smoker for 30 min. but changed my mind. Ribs were done at 4.5 hrs.
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That looks just about exactly where they told me to start when manually tuning.  Glad your worked fine!
 
DivotMaker said:
Bill, you can download the 1503CPH model direct from auberins.com.  I know Rick already tuned yours, but you'll probably need to re-do an autotune after installing the permanent probe.  Despite the info Libo was given, the autotune works, and you'll get good results.  Mine have always been dead-on, and I've never felt I was "lucky!"
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Tony, they did tell me that the Auber would work fine on a model 1 or 2. They assured me in many conversations that it won't work on a model 3 without large temp swings (that may start hours into the program).  I explained to them many times that there were several people on this forum who claimed to have no problems with using theirs on a model 3.  It was exhausting trying to convince them to just send me another unit to try.  They insisted over and over again over about a 2 week period that I should just return my unit for a refund. Finally, I threw my hands up in defeat and accepted the refund.  I did keep the probes, in the hopes that they would obtain a Model 3 for testing from Steve and work the bugs out of it.  However, now that heater meter is looking mighty nice!
 
Hey Tony, will probably order the permanent mount today. But, in reality it really worked good on the ribs. I will do a longer smoke in the #3 later or next weekend. I have some briskets that I cut in half b/4 getting the #3 but they are 7# so maybe that would give me a longer smoke. You can always get a new model Auber unless you are against their customer service. I have the 4th gen for the #1 and can let you know how it works once it is installed. I missed a nice cool day last week. This week supposed to be upper 90's and heat index over 100... Oh Tony I really feel lucky after getting the deal from Rick.  ;D  ;D Sorry couldn't resist.
 
Hey Roger, on the second #3 that is not bypassed but you have an Auber for it. So to use the Auber you have to set the control on the #3 to 250 and then plug the #3 into the Auber. Is that how it works, but can only use temps. at 250 and below?
 
elkins20 said:
Hey Roger, on the second #3 that is not bypassed but you have an Auber for it. So to use the Auber you have to set the control on the #3 to 250 and then plug the #3 into the Auber. Is that how it works, but can only use temps. at 250 and below?
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Correct.
 
Bill, as usual Dave is correct. I plan to bypass the other #3 when I get time but I will only do a switched bypass and drilling the stainless is a pita. I think that non-switched bypasses are potentially dangerous-just my opinion.
 
Limey said:
I think that non-switched bypasses are potentially dangerous-just my opinion.
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So are the firearms in my house, and all the really sharp power tools I own.  Common sense applies here; if you have anyone, in your house, that may run out and plug your smoker in without the Auber attached, please attach a safety device!  If you're like me, and have no possibility of that happening, the unswitched bypass is just fine.  ...Just don't tell OSHA. ;)
 
DM as always you are exactly right. However, given the way these units are built (bsh), what about when your grand kids inherit your SI? Just sayin...
 
Limey said:
DM as always you are exactly right. However, given the way these units are built (bsh), what about when your grand kids inherit your SI? Just sayin...
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If that's a concern, make sure they know how to use it, or modify it before it's passed on.  Just like anything, the end user should be aware of the proper operation, I suppose.  I guess I need to put a "bypassed SI" guide/disclaimer in my will... ;)  If they inherit one with a switch, how will they know which position to put the switch?
 
DM since you asked, toggle it towards the controller, controller rules(rocket cover is down). Lift up rocket cover, move switch away from controller then Auber, or nothing, controls. As a practical matter probably not a problem either way. These units have relatively small heating units and will probably self equilibrate at at a less than melt down temperature. Not really necessary to change your will!
 
Well, guys, went out to Lowe's tonight, the Harley was calling me to take it out. I was able to get everything for the switch. I just forgot the DPDT switch for the #1. But, did find the nylon spacers, Tony need to put a note in your post that they are in speciality drawers located in the hardware area. Also picked up a 25' extension cord good to 50 below. I will use part of it to make short cables for the aubers and the #1. Luckily Rick already did the short power cable on the #3 and switch and bypass. Just need to mount the permanent mount wall sensor on it.
 
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