I would like to thank the previous posters for the info they laid out here. I went to the webstaurant site and ordered the same 3 victorinox knives as well as the stiff 6" boner w/guards. I have been doing a lot of reviewing and pricing for vaccuum sealers also. I had been on the verge of ordering the Food Saver 4880 through eBay with some trepidation because of conflicting reviews. There were some posters here that were recommending the vacmaster 260. I found it had other decent reviews, and after googling the company I found a listing at webstaurant. I found the 260 was on sale for $157, free shipping, and no tax. And from a reputable company. Can't beat that deal so I pulled the pin. I never would have found this company without the input from this forum. Thanks guys.