I'm going to agree with them Ken. I had a couple of briskets (split point and flat for some reason) go for 12hrs last night and no chunk of meat was over 4.5 lbs. I was more than a little worried about pulling shoe leather out of the smoker, but it turned out just right when I sliced into them this morning (other than getting up twice in the middle of the night to pull stuff out). Pull apart tender rather than fall apart, moist and delicious....now if I can figure out why it took so long. All in all, I'm learning to trust the Maverick and ignore things till it goes beep beep.