Whole Chicken in the #3 no time to brine lets see how this works

LongBall

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No time to brine so I thought I would try this with a 6.88# bird.

1.5oz cherry
cook 140 1 hr (not sure if this is good idea on the bird)
finish cook at 275 till it gets to 165

Stuffed bird with this is what I had on hand

1/2 of onion ruff chop
1/2 of lemon ruff chop with peel
1/4 of a clove of garlic ruff chop
hand full of fresh basil

rub bird with olive oil and then added my rub

one can of beer in a pan


Rub
6 Tbsp coarse ground pepper
12 tsp garlic power
12 tsp onion power
6 tsp corn starch
6 tsp salt
3 tsp smoked paprika
3 tsp beef stock base - granulated
1 1/2 tsp ground oregano
1 1/2 tsp lemon pepper
 
Bart,

"Not sure why cook 140 1 hr (not sure if this is good idea on the bird)"

I would be a little concerned about cooking a chicken for one hour at this temp when it is stuffed.

But even without the brine, it should turn out good.

Greg
 
Not sure why the 140 would be bad as that is a cooking/Holding temp. I think the idea is so it gives the wood a slow burn to start with. I'll let you know if it kills me.... :o
 
LongBall said:
Not sure why the 140 would be bad as that is a cooking/Holding temp. I think the idea is so it gives the wood a slow burn to start with. I'll let you know if it kills me.... :o

My guess is you will still be alive tomorrow, just a guess :)

But I would be concerned about bacteria growth while the chicken comes up to temp. Once the chicken or meat reaches the 140 degrees, you are right not really a problem.

I think you will be alright, but the question I would like to ask, what do you think smoking the chicken at such a low temp will really accomplish?

Greg
 
We will need to wait on the details, but I am with Greg on why you would smoke at 140 for an hour.  When I do whole chickens at 225F, they take 3 hours or so and get plenty of smoke.  Curious to see if you think the chicken was over smoked with the so ramp up.
 
If you're concerned about your wood burning, foil it, but don't cook chicken at 140 for an hour!  Unsafe!  You want to reduce the time chicken is between 40 - 140 range, where bacteria grows.  Go 250+ from the get go!
 
Straight to 250 when I cook whole birds. Then looking for 165 to 170 on the maverick. Usually only a  couple of hours.  The stuffing and rub sounds like a winner. Let us know how it turns out for you.
 
So it turned out just perfect. I pulled the bird out at 167 and it was so moist juicy and delish. I will attempt a brine bird at some point but after that smoke I'm not sure it will be worth the extra work. This is the same way I rotisserie them.
 
Wow thanks for the post. I am going to do my first whole chickens in a few days and will probably do a similar routine with additional brining. I have 2 chickens - wonder if I should brine only one and see how they compare?
 
They'll both be great, Sprin!  Un-brined chicken is great, but I find a few hours in the pool really takes the chicken to the "next level!"  You should do a comparison!
 
Again, thanks for all the advice. I followed Divotmaker's advice on the pork butt and the results were excellent. I decided to brine them both this time. I might try to no brine in the future; but in my mind, it's worth the wait!
 
sprin001 said:
Again, thanks for all the advice. I followed Divotmaker's advice on the pork butt and the results were excellent. I decided to brine them both this time. I might try to no brine in the future; but in my mind, it's worth the wait!

Good deal!  I think it is, too! :D
 
LongBall said:
So it turned out just perfect. I pulled the bird out at 167 and it was so moist juicy and delish. I will attempt a brine bird at some point but after that smoke I'm not sure it will be worth the extra work. This is the same way I rotisserie them.

If I missed it, forgive me, I did not see how long it took? 
 
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