Model 2 Heat Element
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DivotMaker
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I have a new 800w, Ralph, but haven't installed yet. I'll let you know! 100 extra watts is bound to make a difference in "time to temp!" As Tim the "Tool man" Taylor would have said - MORE POWER!! ARGH ARGH ARGH!!! 8)
I have an 800W #2. Smoked yesterday for the first time and internal temp at start was 64 degrees. It got up to temp of 235 in 15-20 minutes.
As far as holding temp, I have read where a 30 degree swing, 15 above and 15 below was the standard with the 700W. That is exactly what I was experiencing as well.
Hope this helps.
As far as holding temp, I have read where a 30 degree swing, 15 above and 15 below was the standard with the 700W. That is exactly what I was experiencing as well.
Hope this helps.
DivotMaker
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teleskier said:
Man, that's great! My 700w element takes at least 30-40 minutes to hit 225+. I didn't get to install the new 800 this weekend (too many other honey dos), but you sure have me excited to get it in there now! Also, I didn't put it in because I knew I wouldn't have time to re-autotune the Auber, which will have to be done if you upgrade.
DivotMaker
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Hoping to get mine in this weekend, Ralph! We'll compare together! 
Tony,
Externally they are 100% identical but I am hoping that it is what is inside that counts I didn't have access to an ohmmeter at that time or I could have read the resistance in each.
This is my third modification of my smoker and hopefully the last. I'm thinking that I should have put a hinge on the back cover. Lol
Externally they are 100% identical but I am hoping that it is what is inside that counts I didn't have access to an ohmmeter at that time or I could have read the resistance in each.
This is my third modification of my smoker and hopefully the last. I'm thinking that I should have put a hinge on the back cover. Lol
DivotMaker
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Bear said:
Tony, you have to be a little mechanical, but it's not bad. The worst part is dealing with the insulation! Surely you have a buddy that knows his way around a few tools (Phillip's head screwdriver and 9/16" wrench)? That's all you need.
Carp210
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Did a test this morning on my #2 to see how fast it heats up.
My smoker is a 800 watt, by passed with a fixed probe 2" from top and auber controlled. Outside temp was 74 degrees.
Set auber for 325 degrees and time 2hrs. Foil on wood box and bottom. No wood, water, or heat sink. Empty cabinet.
Results;
15 minutes 152 degrees
30 minutes 240 degrees
40 minutes 285 degrees (pulsing starts at this point)
45 minutes 297 degrees
60 minutes 312 degrees
75 minutes 324 degrees
76 minutes 325 degrees target hit (1 hr 16 min)
Auber over ran by 1 degree and held steady at 325-326
During a regular cook, times will be different than above. A lot has to do with air temp, target setting and amount of meat in smoker.
Last rib cook was done at 63 degrees. It took 1 hr and 10 minutes to hit my 235 target.
If I averaged my cooks I would say it takes right around 60 minutes to hit a 225-235 target with a 1 degree over run.
Hope this helps those thinking about upgrading their heating element.
My smoker is a 800 watt, by passed with a fixed probe 2" from top and auber controlled. Outside temp was 74 degrees.
Set auber for 325 degrees and time 2hrs. Foil on wood box and bottom. No wood, water, or heat sink. Empty cabinet.
Results;
15 minutes 152 degrees
30 minutes 240 degrees
40 minutes 285 degrees (pulsing starts at this point)
45 minutes 297 degrees
60 minutes 312 degrees
75 minutes 324 degrees
76 minutes 325 degrees target hit (1 hr 16 min)
Auber over ran by 1 degree and held steady at 325-326
During a regular cook, times will be different than above. A lot has to do with air temp, target setting and amount of meat in smoker.
Last rib cook was done at 63 degrees. It took 1 hr and 10 minutes to hit my 235 target.
If I averaged my cooks I would say it takes right around 60 minutes to hit a 225-235 target with a 1 degree over run.
Hope this helps those thinking about upgrading their heating element.
gregbooras
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Really good info.
If am reading this right without the Auber the rest of us can expect to hit around 250 degrees in around 35 minutes.
I realize that with food and temp, that will change the outcome!
Thanks for sharing Greg
If am reading this right without the Auber the rest of us can expect to hit around 250 degrees in around 35 minutes.
I realize that with food and temp, that will change the outcome!
Thanks for sharing Greg
DivotMaker
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Dave, nice work! One question, raised by your data "pulsing starts" at 285: Did you autotune, or adjust your P, I and D settings at all? This seems low to start pulsing the power.
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