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Title: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 10:05:46 AM
One of the problem with giving friends, neighbors and co-workers samples is getting all the orders for more.  This morning I'm doing 32 lbs. of various cheeses.  Since my last smoke went so flawlessly, I'm posting my set up.

Ditch the heavy gauge wood pan for something that will heat up quickly. Alum. pie plate for me.
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Ceramic tile, sand and ice.
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Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: Pork Belly on March 14, 2015, 10:10:02 AM
That cool if they are buying the cheese....
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 10:21:30 AM
That cool if they are buying the cheese....
The ones that can, I ask to just bring me the cheese and donate a couple bucks for supplies.  Some, I've offered to buy the cheese when I buy my own and have them reimburse me.  I'm not making a real profit but on my way to becoming an office legend.  LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 10:24:36 AM
Starting temp this morning was 48 degrees.  I've been running 40 minutes at 250 and cheese zone is currently 57 degrees.  This system works perfect. 
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 11:52:08 AM
32 lbs of smoked cheese later:

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Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: NDKoze on March 14, 2015, 02:10:48 PM
Another awesome cheese smoke Dave! How long did you end up going?
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 02:47:54 PM
One hour.  My first smoke was an hour and the second smoke was 1.5 hours.  I thought the second batch was good for eating on sandwiches but just a little too smoky to enjoy out of the hand.  So, I'm trying 1 hour again to see if that is the magic time for this, my third cheese smoke. 
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: Barrel99 on March 14, 2015, 03:22:56 PM
Looks great Dave. I can't quite make out the set up though. Is the pie tin on the element supports?
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
Arnie, the pie tin is on the element itself.  I hit the chips with my propane torch before setting it in the smoker so I'm starting with smoke before the heat has even been turned on.  When I do turn the heat on, it just keeps things going with no lag in heat up time. 
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 03:33:10 PM
Added note of experience from today's smoke, I was so loaded that some of the blocks of cheese were outside the protection of the ice pan.  I could see that they were just starting to show some signs of heat impact.  Luckily, this isn't a long duration smoke so there was no damage but I learned there is value in keeping the cheese directly over the protection of the ice pan.  This might not be an issue for anyone but one with a model 4. 
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: Barrel99 on March 14, 2015, 05:40:42 PM
I am starting to use the torch to start some wood as well. It has its advantages for a low temp smoke.

I didn't think you could put anything directly on the heater element. Guess I was wrong. Interesting. The #4 seems to have a much larger element than the #3.

So the cheese sits on the grate directly above the ice tray? I guess the tile is to prevent heat from getting to the ice tray. Do you add ice at all during the smoke?
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 14, 2015, 06:21:10 PM
No need to add ice during the smoke and in fact the ice is in good enough shape at the end of the first smoke, that I could easily do a second and maybe 3rd smoke.
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on March 29, 2015, 12:38:46 PM
2 weeks and testing this batch. For my smoker and taste, I think this will be my formula from here on out.  2 ounces of wood for an hour.
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: DivotMaker on March 30, 2015, 10:06:04 PM
Nice job, indeed, Dave!  Gotta love the smoked cheese - especially when you "perfect" the formula! ;D
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on April 17, 2015, 10:29:02 AM
While day time temps have started to hit 80 here, the mornings are still in the high 40's.  I'm going to make another couple of batches tomorrow.  I wonder what the highest ambient temps I could still get a smoke done in?
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: 1stlink on April 17, 2015, 06:39:12 PM
 Cheezy good Dave.. Any after pics? If cold weather is necessary to smoke cheese it pretty much leaves me out until at least next Jan (early in the AM)  :'(
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: DivotMaker on April 17, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
Cheezy good Dave.. Any after pics? If cold weather is necessary to smoke cheese it pretty much leaves me out until at least next Jan (early in the AM)  :'(

I cold smoke cheese in any weather.  All you have to do is add your big ice pan to the smoker a couple of hours before you begin (smoker not in direct sunlight, of course).  If it's very warm, I'll put 2 ice pans in before adding the cheese.  If you bring the ambient temp in the box down in the 50s or 60s, you should be fine.  Instead of "pre-heating" the smoker, you are "pre-cooling!"  One advantage I have to being in the refrigerated truckload business - I know how to pre-cool a trailer for loading! ;)   Same concept - much smaller scale!
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: 1stlink on April 18, 2015, 08:14:44 AM
Good info Tony. I have been contemplating buying some accessories including a Cold Smoke Plate and a Jerky Dryer. Handy items for doing different smokes.
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on April 18, 2015, 09:20:31 AM
6:00 a.m. and lift off.  Starting temp this morning was 54 degrees.  After loading the smoker with ice and cheese it dropped to 50 degrees and holding 15 minutes into the smoke. 

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Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: 1stlink on April 18, 2015, 11:01:17 AM
 Frozen water bottles aye, good idea.  I'm hoping to see some after pics Dave
Looking good so far...
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on April 18, 2015, 11:29:46 AM
This is it Ralph, now the waiting period begins.  Cheeses this round were Cheddar, Colby, Mozz., Pepper Jack and Provolone.

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Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: 1stlink on April 18, 2015, 02:36:48 PM
 I am salivating looking at those pictures thanks for sharing

 How long is the wait?
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: Barrel99 on April 18, 2015, 02:47:14 PM
My ambient temperature today is 90 degrees. How hard is that to cool down?
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: SuperDave on April 18, 2015, 03:16:59 PM
Arnie, with the insulation value of our smokers, I'd imagine you treating it like an old time refrigerator. A couple of 10 lbs blocks plus the ice pans.
Title: Re: Biggest cheese smoke to date
Post by: 1stlink on April 18, 2015, 03:35:30 PM
Limey's (Roger fl keys) idea of a "Smoke Daddy Big Kahuna" smoke generate looks like a solution for warm weather folks.